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Re: . Re: ? Re: think it through berry

Posted by monkeyLostInHead on 2026-October-1 08:17:59, Thursday
In reply to . posted by Tyred on 2026-September-30 20:26:30, Wednesday

If some sperm do fertilize eggs and some sperm don't, then what makes the ones that do, do, and the ones that dont, dont? Really answer the question for yourself

We know the process of fertilization. We know that it needs an egg and a sperm, we know that if a sperm swims off in the wrong direction and doesnt meet an egg ,or theres a defect in sperm or egg , then of course it doesnt fertilize . What is the equivalent in your analogy for thoughts "swimming in the wrong direction"? we know why a sperm doesnt trigger fertilization(sperm doesnt meet egg, theres a defect in the egg or sperm). You have not said why a thought doesnt trigger body movement.

we have the science behind fertilization.

We do not know, and you are the one suggesting, that thoughts cause a body to move. You have not yet shown that this is the case.

correlation does not equal causation. That is, just because thoughts sometimes appear before an action does not mean that the thoughts caused the action.

Humans are well known to make false links between actions and external events. The skinner pigeon experiments show this in animals.

When equivalent experiments were done on humans:

When psychologists later tried variations of this experiment on human subjects, they observed identical results.
In typical human studies, a person would be placed in a room with a button and a point counter. The points would actually tick up completely at random. However, because humans are hardwired to find patterns, the participants would try all sorts of random actions—like pressing the button three times, tapping the table, or standing up.
If the points ticked up while they were doing a specific sequence, they would connect their action to the random reward and spend the rest of the experiment aggressively repeating those complex, accidental "rituals" to try and trigger more points.


So in this case, thoughts are the person hitting the button, and the body moving are the points increasing. The person hitting the button thinks that him hitting the button is increasing the points. The person observing the thoughts thinks that the thoughts are moving the body.

This fits much better because it explains why some thoughts dont appear to trigger body movement, while you dont explain that at all.


Slowing down and answering that question will help you see where your logic fails you:

I dont think you know what logic is.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong,

Nope. Your analogy doesnt work.

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