Re: Not so simple

This is a very interesting post, which I think contains a very important insight but which also reveals a very important flaw. You begin by saying that we should just shut the fuck up. You have a point. One of the reasons why I am nostalgic for the past is that, as will be clear for anyone who has read pederastic memoirs of the period from people like Jack Robinson and Michael Davidson, it was quite possible for a man to have pederastic relationships of one kind or another. Yes, it was illegal, but they had to catch you first (poor Michael Davidson was caught); and that wasn't so easy when boys were not brainwashed in the trauma narrative, and were not brought up to see every slight interest in them displayed by a man as an occasion to inform the police. And in large part this was because we were not talked about. Now we are talked about all the time - and don't we know it! - and exclusively in tones of condemnation and moral apoplexy. But it seems to me that the genie is now out of the bottle. There is no way for society to forget, and go back to the beautiful days of innocence. So that if the Right were to reinstall all-male spaces, they would damn well make sure that any man in charge of boys were thoroughly vetted so that no pederast could even get close to boys. And this seems true of nearly all societies around the world. Once Pandora's Box has been opened, it is too late. In some Arab societies, and here and there elsewhere, discretion about the issue may still prevail - and long may it continue! But for those societies, post the sexual openness of the 60s, in which these things are talked about, there is no going back to an era when everyone would just forget that there was such a phenomenon as men who are sexually attracted to boys. So for most of the world the only way in which pederasty will be tolerated henceforth is if it comes to be explicitly tolerated - if parents begin to see their son having a relationship with a man as a good thing, or at least as their son's business - provided, perhaps, that they think the man will be a good influence. How this state of affairs can be brought about, I have no idea. But simply relying on the Right to recreate some all-male spaces, when they retain their virulent hatred of pederasty, will not be enough.